Friday 29 July 2022

The Intel Core i9-12900KS Review: The Best of Intel's Alder Lake, and the Hottest

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As far as top-tier CPU SKUs go, Intel's Core i9-12900KS processor sits in noticeably sharp In contrast to the launch of AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D processor with 96 MB of 3D V-Cache. Whereas AMD's over-the-top chip was positioned as the world's fastest gaming processor, for their fastest chip, Intel has kept their focus on trying to beat the competition across the board and across every workload.

As the final 12th Generation Core (Alder Lake) desktop offering from Intel, the Core i9-12900KS is unambiguously designed to be the powerful one. It's a "special edition" processor, meaning that it's low-volume, high-priced chip aimed at customers who need or want the fastest thing possible, damn the price or the power consumption.

It's a strategy that Intel has employed a couple of times now – most notably with the Coffee Lake-generation i9-9900KS – and which has been relatively successful for Intel. And to be sure, the market for such a top-end chip is rather small, but the overall mindshare impact of having the fastest chip on the market is huge. So, with Intel looking to put some distance between itself and AMD's successful Ryzen 5000 family of chips, Intel has put together what is meant to be the final (and fastest) word in Alder Lake CPU performance, shipping a chip with peak (turbo) clockspeeds ramped up to 5.5GHz for its all-important performance cores.

For today's review we're putting Alder Lake's fastest to the test, both against Intel's other chips and AMD's flagships. Does this clockspeed-boosted 12900K stand out from the crowd? And are the tradeoffs involved in hitting 5.5GHz worth it for what Intel is positioning as the fastest processor in the world? Let's find out.



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Saturday 23 July 2022

Intel Raptor Lake CPUs could be on shelves come October 17

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Intel’s Raptor Lake processors could go on sale on October 17, according to the rumor mill, following a launch in late September.

This fresh speculation on the release timing of Intel’s next-gen CPUs comes from known leaker Enthusiastic Citizen (on Bilibili), as spotted by Tom’s Hardware. You may recall that Enthusiastic Citizen recently provided another Raptor Lake leak concerning the Core i5-13600K (which was an impressive showing for the mid-range chip).

Apply all the usual caveats regarding a suitable degree of skepticism to this (and the previous) leak, of course, but the claim is that Intel will launch Raptor Lake at its Innovation event on September 28 (the dev conference kicks off the day before).

That day will also be when the embargo on reviews is lifted, so would-be buyers should be able to see how the 13th-gen range performs, with the processors going on sale come October 17 as mentioned.

The first models to hit the shelves will apparently be the flagship Core i9-13900K, along with the Core i7-13700K and Core i5-13600K, which would be the expected CPUs to begin with. KF models will also be released – those are processors without integrated graphics for those who are happy to rely on a discrete GPU.

However, non-K CPUs, such as the vanilla Core i7-13700 for example, may not be shown off until CES 2023, on January 5, before going on sale in the latter half of January. Those models aren’t unlocked like K series chips, which means they can’t be overclocked, but that’s fine for many people who won’t ever tinker with their hardware anyway.

Finally, only the top-end Z790 motherboards will launch in October, the leaker claims, and more affordable H760 and B760 chipsets won’t get here until January (where they’ll be pushed out alongside those non-K Raptor Lake processors).

It’s worth remembering that Alder Lake motherboards (600 series) are compatible with Raptor Lake, so you won’t have to upgrade your mobo to a 700 series if you’re already running a 12th-gen chip. And indeed Intel supposedly won’t be releasing an H710 chipset for Raptor Lake, and will instead simply reuse the H610 chipset, which as mentioned is fully compatible.


Analysis: More of a wait to hit shelves than Alder Lake?

This fresh rumor must be treated with plenty of caution, but it does line up with what we were already thinking. When Intel announced its Innovation event for 2022, the chip giant dropped hints regarding “hearing about the latest launches” at the conference, and last year, this was the platform Team Blue used to unleashed Alder Lake processors.

So we were already believing there was a solid likelihood of seeing Raptor Lake at Innovation, around its long-rumored October launch timeframe, meaning it’s no surprise to hear this from the grapevine. However, what’s particularly interesting to us here is the purported gap between launch and the CPUs actually going on sale.

We were assuming this would be short gap, but that’s just guesswork on our part, based on what happened with Alder Lake – where there was just a week between the reveal and processors hitting the shelves. In this case, Intel will apparently be waiting three weeks before unleashing Raptor Lake so the public can buy it, and that’s a perfectly reasonable prediction.

The chips will only be ready when they’re ready, of course, but we’d been thinking that Intel might want to shoot for an early October launch to try and get the drop on AMD. Team Red’s Ryzen 7000 CPUs are expected to be launched in September and likely to then emerge in October, just the same as the theory holds with Raptor Lake – and whichever company gets their next-gen processors out first will obviously have something of a minor victory in terms of grabbing that limelight the quickest.

In Intel’s case, though, it would be a potentially bigger win because it’d be the third generation of chips to come out without an answer from AMD, which could be regarded as making Team Red look more than a tad sluggish – even if Ryzen 5000 has held its own remarkably well throughout its reign (with that 3D V-cache refresh helping as a kind of stopgap at the top-end for gamers, admittedly).

Maybe AMD will get past the post first, though, if this new rumor is right, but we’ll only know for sure in a couple of months when these next-gen launches should get underway.



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Monday 18 July 2022

Intel Raptor Lake could be serious trouble for AMD going by this 13600K leak

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Intel’s Raptor Lake is really hitting its stride with leaks, as another one has just emerged – but the latest spilled test results come not from the flagship 13th-gen chip, as many have in recent times, but a mid-range model from the chip giant’s incoming range of next-gen CPUs.

To be precise, what we’re seeing here is some purported benchmarking of the Intel Core i5-13600K, a CPU that’ll be the choice of many buyers as a more affordable option than Core i7 or i9 processors.

The leak was spotted by VideoCardz and is another affair which has been shared via Bilibili in China, this time courtesy of Enthusiastic Citizen. The claim is that the 13600K processor in question is an ES3 or Engineering Sample 3, meaning it’s a later stage pre-release chip.

However, Enthusiastic Citizen asserts that the ES3 CPU is being run at the same clocks as a QS or Qualification Sample – in other words, the pre-release models which are essentially the finished version, sent out to Intel’s partners for testing – so it should give us a good idea of final performance (arm yourself with a very distinct sense of skepticism when considering all this, of course).

What this means is that the engineering sample did run at 4.9GHz to 5.1GHz boost on its performance cores, but Enthusiastic Citizen jacked that up to hit 5.1GHz across all-cores to simulate the final chip (efficiency cores were also boosted from 3.9GHz to 4GHz, too).

In case you’d forgotten, the Core i5-13600K is thought to have six performance cores and eight efficiency ones, meaning it’s a 14-core chip in total (with 20-threads, as only the performance cores have hyper-threading).

The benchmarking was carried out in CPU-Z and Cinebench, and in the former, the 13600K hit 830 points for single-core and 10,031 points in multi-core, which is respectively 8% and 79% faster than its predecessor, the current 12600K.

As for Cinebench R23, we see the 13600K attain 1,387 points in single-core, and 24,420 for multi-core. That’s a blistering 40% quicker for multi-core compared to the 12600K, but the single-core result has gone badly awry here, as it’s actually 26% slower for the Raptor Lake chip.


Analysis: A lot of caveats, but nonetheless looking promising for Intel

Clearly something weird is going on with that first Cinebench result, as a next-gen CPU being 26% slower than the chip it’s replacing is obviously not right. This is a reminder that benchmarking pre-release silicon – especially in a scenario where an engineering chip has been boosted to match the purported frequency of a qualification sample – is a veritable minefield of caveats.

Still, the other results provided here do fall about where we’d expect. Seeing a 40% boost in multi-core is very impressive, and it exactly matches another leak where the Core i9-13900K flagship also achieved this same 40% generational leap – so that adds a bit more weight to the evidence presented here.

It’s a good sign to see such predicted performance gains for a mid-range Raptor Lake CPU, and we can certainly expect better multi-core performance from 13th-gen chips given that Intel is purportedly really ramping up the overall core count by doubling up on efficiency cores in the 13600K (and 13900K).

However, these early leaks are also pointing to power usage being bumped up with Raptor Lake, and Enthusiastic Citizen theorizes that the 13600K could run with a 160W TDP (not a world of difference to the 150W of the 12600K, but a bit of a step up nonetheless).

One of the most exciting things to see right now is the sudden increase in leakage around Raptor Lake sample CPUs, which is what’s commonly witnessed in the run up to the launch of a new generation of silicon. Intel’s 13th-gen chips are rumored to be arriving early in October – theoretically following a late September launch event – and the steady flow of Raptor Lake spillage coming right now suggests that this will indeed be the case.

The main question is then whether AMD will manage to beat Intel to the punch with the release of Ryzen 7000 before then – right now, the rumor mill seems to believe that both next-gen CPU ranges are set to debut at around the same time, in September. AMD could have quite a fight on its hands in the mid-range territory if this leak proves to be on the money, so Team Red can’t really afford to be late with Zen 4.



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Intel Raptor Lake flagship CPU leaked gaming benchmarks are causing some concern

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Intel’s Raptor Lake flagship CPU has seen some further leaked benchmarks, and unlike the previous spillage, this is a juicier affair because they’re actual gaming tests.

The game benchmarks come from the same source on Chinese video sharing website Bilibili who provided results for the likes of CineBench and Geekbench recently, as flagged up by @harukaze5719 on Twitter.

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Again, this is an engineering sample of the Core i9-13900K processor which is compared to its predecessor the 12900K, but we have to bear firmly in mind that it’s a pre-release chip, and also be very cautious about any leaked benchmarking, anyway.

Bearing those caveats in mind, across a selection of games including some popular titles like Red Dead Redemption 2, Horizon Zero Dawn and PUBG, the 13900K turned out to be about 5% faster for average frame rates at 1080p resolution, around 7% quicker at 1440p, and 3% better at 4K resolution.

The rough upshot of this is around a 5% increase for gaming performance compared to the 12900K, which feels rather disappointing on the face of it. Plus power usage is considerably cranked up for this 13900K sample, too, at least for the provided peak consumption figures which see the Raptor Lake chip hit 150W to 160W, when the 12900K sits at more like 120W to 140W (the figures vary quite widely depending on the game being played, as you’d expect).


Analysis: Reasons to be cautious – and there are plenty of them

This isn’t the best look for the incoming 13900K, then, but we definitely shouldn’t jump to any conclusions here. Realistically, we’d expect more of an increase for a new generation of CPUs than this, and we’re likely to get exactly that for a number of reasons.

Firstly, as we’ve already mentioned, this is a (purported) pre-release sample, and the finished flagship processor will be faster anyway. For starters, in these tests, the 13900K is boosting to 5.5GHz, and the rumored boost speed for the flagship is more like 5.8GHz or thereabouts. And the Raptor Lake platform is obviously not fully realized yet either, with for example early BIOS versions for Raptor Lake motherboards that are still not ready for launch – these too are works in progress.

The power consumption figures also seem a bit off to us, likely pointing to some wonkiness around the engineering sample being run through its paces here. Some of the individual benchmark results themselves look a little odd, too, with some seriously hefty hikes in performance for minimum frame rates here and there.

All of which is to say we wouldn’t be running around panicking about Raptor Lake being a damp squib just yet. Remember that the mentioned earlier benchmarking looked pretty promising, particularly around multi-core performance, with the chip still in a pre-release incarnation at that.

Intel made good progress with 12th-gen Alder Lake processors, snaring many an accolade particularly in terms of gaming versus Ryzen, so even just a reasonable step forward with this Raptor Lake refresh will still mean AMD needs to pull something out of the bag with Ryzen 7000.

Fortunately for Team Red, all rumors point to the new Zen 4 chips being something special, so it’s likely that the next-gen CPU battle will be a close fought race; certainly in terms of performance. This new 13th-gen leak does also hint at AMD being more likely to get a firmer lead in terms of the power efficiency crown, mind, and that could be more important than usual given the state of power bills which are currently getting out of control for many folks, and set to worsen in the future.

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Sunday 17 July 2022

Nvidia RTX 4080, 4070 and 4060 graphics cards may not arrive until 2023

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Nvidia’s RTX 4090 might be the only next-gen GPU which is launched this year, with the other Lovelace graphics cards – the RTX 4080, and models below that – to follow in 2023, according to a new rumor.

This is the latest gossip from Greymon55, a well-known hardware leaker on Twitter, who seems pretty convinced about what sources have said, though clearly, we should still take this with a bucketful of salt.

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As you can see from these recent tweets, the theory is that Nvidia will announce AD102, which refers to the RTX 4090, in September ahead of a launch in October (meaning it’ll be available to buy then). Note that this is also the contention for Intel’s Raptor Lake CPUs, a rumor we’ve heard from other sources, too.

However, the other Lovelace chips, AD103, AD104, and AD106, which should represent the RTX 4080, and RTX 4070 plus 4060, with AD106 rumored to be the RTX 4050, won’t arrive until 2023.

That’d be surprising to say the least, seeing as the rumor mill has generally held that we’ll see a staggered launch of the first Lovelace GPUs late in 2022, with the RTX 4090 to be followed by the 4080 and 4070 before the year is out.

In a follow-up tweet, Greymon clarifies that it’s “most likely” the case that only the RTX 4090 will be launched this year because of “too many stocks”, which presumably refers to the excess stock of RTX 3000 current-gen graphics cards that retailers and card makers still have to sell before Nvidia can launch next-gen models (without leaving those partners in the lurch).


Analysis: Weighing up the balance of a boat-load of Lovelace rumors

So, what to make of this? It’s a bit of a shock to think that only the RTX 4090 will come out in 2022, in all honesty, and that certainly goes against the prevailing theories on the rumor mill up until now.

Then again, we have heard a lot about Nvidia having problems regarding graphics card makers running into trouble clearing excess RTX 3000 stock. Indeed, this has been a persistent message down the grapevine of late, and recently, other leakers such as Moore’s Law is Dead (MLID) have talked about a possible delay for the RTX 4000 launch.

However, MLID’s sources were speculating about a push back to maybe November or December 2022 at the latest, not the beginning of next year (when Greymon says 2023, we’re presuming that means January, or very early on, certainly). Remember also that we’ve witnessed chatter around Nvidia wanting to cut orders at TSMC and push back the production schedule of next-gen Lovelace GPUs, too.

So maybe Greymon is onto something and Nvidia has indeed negotiated some kind of delay? Perhaps there’s a chance of that, but we’re not so sure at all, and will need to hear more from the rumor mill to believe that such a major delay, in terms of only bringing out the RTX 4090 this year, could be possible.

If Team Green did only release its flagship GPU, that would pretty much leave the door open for AMD to come in with new RDNA 3 graphics cards – which are thought to maybe debut in October – and potentially make a big impression. (Particularly if mid-range RDNA 3 GPUs – which will find a much wider target audience than a niche flagship like the 4090 – are first out of the door from AMD, though that isn’t certain by any means, even if it was rumored in the past).

No matter how carefully Nvidia might need to tread around its graphics card manufacturing partners, there’s surely only a limited amount of tiptoeing around these firms that can be indulged in, balanced against the possible perception of Team Green falling behind AMD, which would ultimately be worse for business when it comes to the next-gen GPU wars.

Ultimately, we’re not convinced by this latest rumor from Greymon, particularly as the most recent thing we’ve heard from MLID regarding the Lovelace launch is that the expectation is that a ‘real quantity’ of GPUs will be around before December, so some serious volume of next-gen RTX 4000 cards should be on shelves in November, in theory. And an RTX 4090 launch alone would certainly not represent a serious volume of graphics cards…

What this fresh rumor could point to is Nvidia reining things back, though, and perhaps a good compromise view is that maybe we’ll see a more limited launch than first intended for Team Green, but still a decent quantity of GPUs getting out there this year. That could mean an RTX 4090 plus 4080 launch (in October and then November, perhaps), and maybe a 4090 Ti spin if needed to compete with the RDNA 3 flagship, as Nvidia doesn’t know how powerful a performer the latter will be yet.

We’re definitely expecting to see more than one Lovelace GPU in 2022, and we’d be truly surprised if it turns out to be the case that Nvidia only releases the RTX 4090 this year.



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Friday 15 July 2022

Intel CPUs could get more expensive – so should we worry about Raptor Lake pricing?

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Intel could push through some potentially considerable price hikes on processors and some other components, according to a new report.

Obviously as with any such speculation, treat it as just that – informed gossip from the grapevine, which in this case comes from three industry executives with direct knowledge of Intel’s purported plans, who Nikkei Asia tapped for info.

Word is that in the autumn, Intel will increase asking prices for CPUs, models for both servers and desktop PCs, as well as some other chips such as Wi-Fi modules.

While Intel supposedly hasn’t yet settled on a magnitude for the hikes, they could run up to 20% according to the report, though some products may have less substantial single-digit percentage increases.

Intel has apparently already informed business customers about this incoming move, with the reasoning given that these rises are required to match ‘surging’ costs of materials and manufacturing.


Analysis: Time to start getting concerned about Raptor Lake pricing?

Well, this sounds like a rather troubling picture, doesn’t it? No sooner are we breathing sighs of relief about graphics card pricing finally coming down to normal levels, and in some cases, well below MSRP, and now we hear that processors are going to be getting costlier? In a word: bah.

Of course, it’s only Intel supposedly facing these cost demons – if this report is correct – but if there are broader pressures on production costs and bill of materials, is it all that much of a stretch to imagine that AMD might face some of these problems, too? At least to some extent?

Okay, we mustn’t get carried away with theorizing here, but indulge us one more time – this report also makes us rather concerned about the potential pricing of Intel’s incoming Raptor Lake processors. With autumn mentioned as the timing for these price hikes, we know that the 13th-gen CPUs are due most likely in October – maybe with a late September reveal – and that puts the chips squarely in that timeframe.

Only time will tell on that score, but we would think there’d be a limit on how far Intel can push to offset any losses on the production front, certainly with consumer CPUs – given that inflationary pressures and the general cost-of-living crisis are doubtless going to be cutting back demand for hardware as it is, going forward.

We’d guess at the bigger increases to come with server processors, then, and perhaps higher-end CPUs for consumers, mainly because the more affluent PC enthusiasts out there who typically have their eyes Core i9 chips are going to have budgets that are subject to less of an impact by the current economic woes around.

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Intel Raptor Lake could launch in September to land first blow against AMD in next-gen CPU wars

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Intel has announced that its Innovation event for this year will take place on September 27 and 28, swiftly fuelling the fires of speculation that this is where we could see the launch of next-gen Raptor Lake desktop processors.

Intel Innovation is a conference where developers and the ‘tech elite’ get together for a bunch of workshops, demos and so forth, mainly focused on AI, the cloud, computing, and future, well, innovations.

It is also our “chance to hear about the latest launches”, and as you may recall, at last year’s Intel Innovation, the chip giant launched fresh processors in the form of Alder Lake.

So, the obvious expectation is that we could well see Raptor Lake revealed at Innovation 2022, given that these next-gen CPUs are inbound and expected to release around about that timeframe.


Analysis: Off to the races with Raptor Lake at the start of October, then?

If you recall, the Alder Lake unveiling at last year’s Intel Innovation was quite a big thing, and involved showing off the flagship CPU, the 12900K, being overclocked (by ‘Splave’) and setting some new records in the process (hitting 6.8GHz). That happened at the event which ran from October 27 and 28, with Alder Lake desktop chips actually going on sale come November 4, 2021 (officially, anyway, though some retailers jumped the gun a little).

We can then theorize that Raptor Lake processors could be revealed on September 27 and then go on sale in the first week of October. What makes this seem more likely is that we’ve seen quite a number of rumors popping up in recent times about Raptor Lake, which points to the launch coming closer, and some of that speculation has already suggested that Intel is aiming for an October release date for the 13th-gen chips; so this all ties neatly up. That doesn’t mean it’ll happen, of course, but there seems to be a convincing enough argument here in our books.

If Raptor Lake chips do hit shelves right at the beginning of October, that could beat AMD to the punch in terms of next-gen launch timing. Team Red does, of course, have its Ryzen 7000 CPUs inbound for later this year, and the current expectation is that these processors could also be launched in September, but that too is likely to be an initial reveal. And with chatter about AMD needing to clear ‘excess’ Ryzen 5000 stock before the Zen 4 launch, if Intel is moving to go on sale right at the start of October, there’s a possibility that Team Blue could land that all-important first blow in the battle of the next-gen CPUs.

With plenty of rumors circulating in recent times around the impressive performance boost that could be ushered in by Raptor Lake, at this point, perhaps the main question that remains on the lips of many is: how will Intel pitch the price tags of 13th-gen silicon?

The buzz on the grapevine, worryingly, is that Team Blue may be looking to increase asking prices for its chips, and this might include Raptor Lake – although quite how well raised prices will go down with consumers getting squeezed by inflation and the rising cost of living, we shall have to see. If it happens at all, of course, and we should be very cautious around assuming anything on that front.

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Thursday 14 July 2022

Intel Raptor Lake flagship CPU could blow away Core i9-12900K

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Intel’s Raptor Lake processors have been the subject of another leak, and this time the spillage of benchmarks is a weighty one centered on the Core i9-13900K flagship chip.

Of course, let’s put the usual caveats upfront: these are just purported results, and may not be genuine – we have to take that on trust – and this is a pre-release (engineering) sample of the 13900K (which as you may recall, is a 24-core CPU featuring eight performance cores and 16 efficiency ones).

The benchmark scores come from Bilibili (spotted by VideoCardz), a video sharing site in China, so bear in mind that it’s not what we’d consider the most reliable of sources, so tread even more cautiously than normal here. That said, the results seem detailed and are quite a work of fakery if they are indeed completely made up.

The benchmarks are drawn from a variety of suites, including the usual suspects such as Blender, CineBench, Geekbench, and CPU-Z, with the 13900K being paired with an RTX 3060 Ti GPU and DDR5 system RAM in an Asus ROG Z690 Extreme motherboard.

So, what do the scores show us? Namely that compared to the current 12900K, the incoming Raptor Lake flagship is about 10% faster on average for single-core performance, and around 35% quicker for multi-core.

As you might expect, some benchmarks show a more pronounced lead for the 13900K, and that goes up to 46% faster for multi-core performance as benchmarked in CPU-Z (with the Raptor Lake CPU being 40% faster in CineBench R23 multi-core, and 41% quicker in some Blender tests).


Analysis: Further evidence that Raptor Lake will be a worthy upgrade

Another key point here is the clock speed shown for the 13900K sample chip, which is a base frequency of 3GHz, with boost to 5.5GHz, but up to 5.7GHz when hitting its fastest speed. That exactly matches another leak we saw a few days ago, again for a purported Raptor Lake flagship CPU engineering sample, so that adds some weight to this rumor here.

And indeed it’s more fuel to the fire of the general theory that the 13900K should reach 5.7GHz when the proverbial accelerator is floored – with Thermal Velocity Boost, meaning a short-term burst of speed – and that maybe we might just see 5.8GHz as previously rumored. Remember, this is still sample silicon, so the finished version of the 13900K is likely to offer a little more oomph – and the same goes for those benchmark results. Again, this isn’t the first time we’ve seen some heavy hinting that the Raptor Lake flagship will be an impressive step up from the existing 12900K.

Single-core gains are more modest, but still perfectly healthy – for a sample chip – though they appear to be more to do with the faster boost levels the 13900K is being pushed to here (the 12900K tops out at its max boost of 5.2GHz). Gaming benchmarks will be where a lot of interest is focused, of course, on how far Raptor Lake moves forward, with bolstered levels of onboard cache expected to help it versus Alder Lake in that respect.

For what’s billed as a simple refresh of Alder Lake, Intel’s 13th-gen processors are looking enticing enough from where we stand right now. If there’s a worry here for fans of Team Blue already mulling a next-gen CPU, it’s that this leak shows the 13900K hitting a ‘PL4’ power usage (the maximum allowed as a temporary spike) as high as 420W, which is seriously power-hungry – but then we must remember that this is still a pre-release CPU.

What’s also worth noting is that Raptor Lake will be facing off against Ryzen 7000 chips built on an entirely new Zen 4 architecture, silicon which itself appears to be very promising in terms of the impact it could make, reaching eye-opening boost speeds for starters. Both these competing next-gen CPU ranges are thought to be launching around the same time, namely September or October 2022.



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Monday 11 July 2022

Intel Raptor Lake flagship CPU could be seriously speedy, new leak suggests

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Intel’s Raptor Lake CPUs are seeing more regular leakage these days, and another engineering sample has just been spotted, hinting at fast clock speeds and performance for the flagship chip.

This leak comes in the form a purported benchmark of the Core i9-13900K, with the 24-core processor (with 8 performance cores, and 16 efficiency cores) showing up in a Geekbench result.

The result itself is not as important as the clocks which the 13900K was seen running with, namely a base clock of 3GHz and boost of 5.5GHz. Remember, this is still a pre-release sample chip – in theory, assuming the benchmark isn’t faked – so those aren’t going to be the final speeds (we’d certainly expect more from the base clock frequency with the finished item).

The leak also shows Turbo (boost) speeds briefly touching 5.7GHz, which could be a promising indication that maximum boost speeds (for a short time, with Thermal Velocity Boost) might even sneak a touch higher than that with the final CPU.

After all, in the past we have heard about the Raptor Lake flagship reaching a maximum boost of 5.8GHz straight out of the box, and that kind of talk has persisted for a while now (with some rumor pedlars even floating the idea that still faster max boosts might be hit – though we’d definitely take that with more skepticism than usual).

As for the Geekbench 5 score itself, it puts the sample 13900K at around 8% and 37% faster than its predecessor for single-core and multi-core performance, as VideoCardz, which spotted the result (flagged up by BenchLeaks), points out. However, we can’t read much into this because as already noted, it’s not the finished CPU.


Analysis: Next-gen CPU battle is a tough one to call

This is another suggestion, then, that the Core i9-13900K could reach some seriously beefy speeds at its default configuration, let alone before enthusiasts start tinkering with it and overclocking the CPU.

The possibilities therein could have AMD worried, particularly when other recent leaks around Raptor Lake performance suggest that Intel is onto something more promising than you might think given that the 13th-gen silicon is supposedly a simple refresh of Alder Lake.

That said, AMD is taking a big step forward itself with next-gen Ryzen 7000 processors, which will be built on an entirely new Zen 4 architecture – with Team Red also looking to usher in big steps forward with boost speeds.

Next-gen CPUs could be a close-fought battle, then, and ultimately it’s difficult to judge based on what’s floating around via the rumor mill. What could be more worrying for AMD is how fast Intel might push to follow-up Raptor with Meteor Lake – on an all-new 7nm process – with speculation pointing to those 14th-gen chips kicking off at some point during Q2 2023. That would really put pressure on AMD, if it comes to fruition.

While we need to be careful around any leaks, it’s worth noting that the engineering chip seen here was installed in an Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Extreme motherboard, which has just had its BIOS updated with support for Raptor Lake CPUs. That gives this leak a bit more weight in terms of its likely authenticity, particularly as the specs match up with another recently sighted 13900K pre-release sample which showed a 5.5GHz boost.

The fact that there’s a seemingly steady stream of Raptor Lake leakage right now is also a positive sign that Intel’s 13th-gen processors could just sneak out earlier than expected. As we recently theorized, that might mean a September launch rather than the commonly rumored October timeframe, but only time will tell.



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AMD has a secret weapon to help it beat Nvidia, but is it getting too cocky?

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AMD is feeling confident that it has a secret weapon that could beat Nvidia – but we’re worried it may be getting a bit too cocky.

This secret weapon (which admittedly isn’t that secret, as AMD is crowing about it), is the use of GPU chiplets in its upcoming RDNA 3 graphics cards. Rather than using a single ‘monolithic’ chip for its GPU, AMD will use multiple chiplets that combine to make one large – and very powerful – chip with a high number of GPU cores.

AMD actually does something similar with its Ryzen CPUs, but this will be the first time a chiplet design will be used for GPUs – something which the company thinks will give it a big advantage over its chief competitor Nvidia, which is sticking with a monolithic design for its upcoming Lovelace RTX 4000 GPUs.

As Tweaktown reports,  Sam Naffziger, AMD senior vice president, corporate fellow and product technology architect, explained in an interview with VentureBeat that “Nvidia certainly hasn't jumped on the chiplet bandwagon yet. We have a big lead there and we see big opportunities with that. They'll be forced to do so. We'll see when they deploy it.”

That’s certainly a bold statement, and points to AMD being rather confident that its chiplet design will give it the performance edge over Nvidia with its next-gen GPUs.

The future of GPUs 

In fact, Naffziger clearly thinks that chiplet designs are the future of GPUs, and it’s a matter of when – not if – Nvidia embraces chiplets.

With the physical limitations of single chips clearly being a concern – after all, chips can only get so small, and hold so many transistors – AMD is looking at ways to keep making more powerful components. 

Multi-chiplet designs are certainly one answer to this question, but as Naffziger explains in the interview, “We've seen this coming for a long time. Like I said, lead times are long. We've been investing in things like the Infinity Cache, chiplet architecture and all these approaches that exploit new dimensions to keep the gains coming.”


Analysis: Don’t get too cocky

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While AMD’s confidence in chiplet designs and the performance they could bring to GPUs is certainly exciting for the future of PC gaming in particular, we don’t want them getting too cocky.

Nvidia should never be underestimated, and AMD has a long way to go if it wants to seriously trouble Team Green’s domination when it comes to GPU sales.

On the power front, we can definitely see the potential of multi-chiplet designs, and the prospect of AMD beating Nvidia when it comes to power and performance is certainly exciting.

But, if AMD gets complacent, it may stumble at this crucial time, and while everyone loves a good underdog, AMD has failed to convince the majority of gamers to embrace its GPUs. A cocky attitude may not help matters (though some will find it appealing as well).

Also, AMD and Nvidia are being joined in the GPU fight by Intel, and while Team Blue hasn’t made much of an impact, it could still shake things up substantially.

And, while Nvidia may be overlooking chiplets, Intel certainly isn’t. As Naffziger points out, “Intel certainly has jumped on [chiplet design]. Ponte Vecchio is the poster child for chiplet extremes.”

Intel’s Ponte Vecchio architecture will be powering Intel’s high performance GPUs, and will be using a chiplet design that will use multiple parallel processors for increased performance.

Could we get into a situation where it’s AMD vs Intel fighting for the GPU performance crown, while Nvidia is left behind?

We don’t think so – again, never underestimate Nvidia. We’re sure it’ll still pump out some of the best graphics cards when the RTX 4000 series launches later this year (even if it is delayed, as rumors suggest).



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Thursday 7 July 2022

Look out AMD – Intel Raptor Lake CPUs could launch sooner than expected

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Intel’s Raptor Lake processors have popped up in a fresh driver release which offers a hint that we may see these next-gen CPUs before too long.

As VideoCardz reports, support for Raptor Lake-S and P processors has been added to the new Intel Media Driver release (version 22.4.4, which is labeled Q2, even though we’re not in that quarter any longer).

Those designations of CPUs refer to Raptor Lake desktop (S) and laptop processors (P – lower power mobile chips), and it’s interesting to see support for the latter, because thus far the rumor mill has been relatively quiet about what to expect from Intel’s incoming 13th-gen range on the mobile front.

The broad expectation – partly due to that lack of buzz on the grapevine – is that the laptop models may launch a fair bit later for Raptor Lake, with the desktop chips coming first.


Analysis: AMD in danger of being left behind?

As you may be aware, the most recent rumors have pointed to an October launch for Raptor Lake. We’ve been wondering whether Intel might feel the urge to pull the trigger for the release of 13th-gen processors slightly earlier than this, as previous rumors had indicated that September could be the month to watch for Raptor Lake silicon to be loosed.

The fact that we’re seeing Raptor Lake pop up in driver references now is at least a suggestion that the launch could be closer than expected, but what also makes us wonder about 13th-gen chips turning up sooner rather than later is what we’ve heard about the following generation.

Intel’s Meteor Lake processors appear to be staying on track for what could be an initial Q2 2023 debut, and given that, we’d think that the chip giant would want to leave a decent amount of breathing space between the 13th and 14th-generations. So, pushing out Raptor Lake later in 2022 seems a less likely prospect in that regard.

Of course, this is all speculation built on rumors, so take it as such – with a skeptical view.

Another way to look at this is – why would Intel not want to push ahead with Raptor Lake, if possible? If Team Blue can indeed spring the 13th-gen chips earlier, and get the drop on AMD’s next-gen Zen 4 CPUs – as we’ve also heard Team Red could potentially be holding these back to allow for Ryzen 5000 stock to sell through – that’s going to look like quite a punishing victory in the desktop processor space.

Remember, AMD is still relying on those Ryzen 5000 CPUs which were first launched coming on for two years ago now – and Alder Lake has already muscled past that silicon, certainly as popular picks for gamers, so Raptor Lake would absolutely seal Intel’s advantage in this respect. (Yes, we’re not forgetting that Team Red did bring in 3D V-Cache tech, which is undoubtedly impressive, but it’s just one model of processor – the 5800X3D – and so has a limited impact across the whole CPU arena).

AMD could be in serious bother, for our money, if Raptor Lake beats Zen 4 to the punch launch-wise, and Meteor Lake is not that far off either – even 3D V-Cache-toting Ryzen 7000 CPUs, which are rumored to be some way down the line from the initial Zen 4 debut, are unlikely to be able to save AMD against Intel’s dropped-down-to-7nm 14th-gen models. Granted, Zen 4 is shaping up to be very strong, so maybe we’ll be surprised on that score – but as things stand right now, it feels like a rather uncomfortable battle of launch timeframes for AMD.



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